Monday, May 14, 2007

The time of the end....

As many of you know, it has been purported that the time of the end would not be known to anyone but the Father. This understanding is based on the scripture:

36 Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father (Matthew 24).

But a more in-depth analysis of this scripture and others tells us a different story. Please visit the Good News! link on this page.

Blessings,
William

31 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Bill!

Great idea with the blog! May God bless your efforts and the efforts of this group to bring his chosen one's together!

Philia,

Michael

Anonymous said...

What a blessing to know that there REALLY IS a true church today. I always felt in my heart that there was one somewhere.....I'm so glad that I've been made aware of it through this website and that of the Lord's Witnesses website. May God continue to bless your efforts and hard work.

Sincerely and with love
Nancy

Anonymous said...

Maybe the real date is Pentecost 2008. Or maybe 2009. Jehovah's Witnesses are ok.
:)

Anonymous said...

There are another options

http://nisan14.blogspot.com

But, without the code.
The site is in spanish.

Anonymous said...

Hold on to your socks....we are about to get very busy!

Blessings,
Bill

Anonymous said...

Hi William

I was guided to the Lord's Witnesses back in 2003 after I was touched by Jesus.

God bless you,

Adam

P.S. Keep track of Nelson Mandela's career over the coming years. He seems to be well placed to take his throne as the head of the Beast (a.k.a. Antichrist).

The Lords' Witnesses said...

Thank you Adam may your faith in Jehovah and Jesus continue and may they bless you in your search for the truth and the life!

As far as Mandela is concerned, it is important that you understand where the Anti-Christ comes from...

18 . Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. (1Jn2)

So those who are counted as anti-Christ were those who were part of the church. I don't think Nelson Mandela qualifies for that distinction, but then maybe he was a JW at one time!!!!

The point is that those in the JW's or LW's for that matter, who do not beleive that the 1NC Saints (and 1NC Reserves) are the fleshly body of Christ, are anti-Christ's for they have denied Him in that they have denied His flesh.

This is currently the case in the Watchtower (TCC3) as we speak.

Blessings,
Bill

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Anonymous said...

Interesting stuff Bill. Just to confirm, are you saying that there have been many Antichrist's through history (I agree with you, I believe one of the first was Paul) and that they have all been attached at some time to the Church (such as the JW)? Mandela's first wife was Evelyn Ntoko Mase, a JW. They divorced due to irreconcilable differences over his attachment to the Umkhonto we Sizwe, violent "freedom fighters".

God bless you,

Adam

My blog:

http://reachheavenonearth.blogspot.com

P.S. I see that you have predicted that the Great Tribulation will start this week. You may be right but I have been guided to "the mushroom cloud" event taking place in summer/autumn 2009. We do agree though that it will happen some time soon though, the stars are aligning.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't believe it when I heard there was a breakoff group from the JW's that decided they would have there own set of wacky predictions!

Congrats on making this list....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4717864.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

Anonymous said...

Predictions is a risky thing, see what it did to JWs. Yours is interesting, however I must point out that you have left out the year "0" maby it will push it up 1 year maby not. any way 2008 has come and gone. I'll give you that, noitice that President elect Obama was elected on Sept 4th. 2008 something to think about.

Anonymous said...

PS..President Elect Obama called for a new world order you can see it on utube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc

The Lords' Witnesses said...

Hi Anonymous, Predictions with regard to scriptures is only risky if you fear what man thinks. One of the problems of the world today is that most people are too concerned about what other people think when it comes to how they speak, dress, and act around them. It causes them to either hide their true feelings about religion, family matters or politics in an effort to “keep the peace”. This is exactly what Satan wants you to do. The governments of the world call it political correctness but it is actually counter productive and is used to hinder what is truly righteous in God’s eyes. The Lords’ Witnesses on the other hand are more concerned about what Jehovah and Jesus think and do our best to do what is right in their eyes not mans.

Jesus told us to love Jehovah with all our hearts, all our souls, all our minds and all of our strength and to love our brothers as we love ourselves. He also said to keep asking, and it will be given to you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you.

The only risk I see is that Jehovah and Jesus both see that we love them dearly and are grateful enough for the life they have given us to continue doing as Jesus says. It is unfortunate the Jehovah’s Witnesses gave up asking, gave up seeking, and gave up knocking after their failure in 1975. The only thing they missed was that their start date of Satan’s rule was wrong. They started the 6,000 year era when Adam was born in 4027 Tishri, when they should have started it on 3993 Nisan when Adam had sinned. That was the “founding of the world” Jesus spoke of. It was the beginning of the world under Satan’s rule. In other words from a heavenly standpoint he was finished on 2008 Nisan 2008. They were wilted by the heat of the day (the worldly pressures) and have since dried up.

It is the end of Satan’s headship over the demonic forces (the principalities, powers and rulers) in this world that have resulted in the current chaotic state we are now in. All of the worldly powers are maniacally egocentric and full of vanity and will look out only for themselves as the world as we know is disintegrates before them. They too will find that they have been manipulated by the “hidden powers” much in the same way we have been manipulated by the visible powers. The “hidden powers” will use them in an effort to “fix” these global disasters by forming a one world government (most recognize as the “new world order”) which is based on a democratic (or should I say demonic) form of government (democracy was designed to divide and conquer nations not build up). This NWO however will fail miserably as the described by Jesus:

AV Lk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

AV Lk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

AV Lk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

The earth represents the administrations of the world from both a religious and a secular perspective. The seas represent those of mankind who are not adhering to or have broken away from any organized (worldly affiliated) religion or political party who are basically not organized in any way. The waves represent those of the sea coming together and protesting what the leaders ore doing on a global scale.

The Son of man we now believe will come on 2008 Tebbeth14/15 (Thursday Jan 15 – Sat Jan 17) as a mushroom cloud rises up from (we think) the Hudson River in Manhattan and shortly after that one in the UK since there are two fire from heaven events.

What would be truly wonderful is if all of those who are afraid to speculate on such things as this would shake off the fear of what others think and join us in our efforts to fully decode the bible. It would certainly speed up the process and our accuracy would improve considerably!!!

We are all a part of the (spirit) body and what can a foot do without a leg, or an eye without the mind, or ear without a head? For when the spirit is joined together its proficiency increased exponentially. That is why Satan has gone to great lengths to divide us by using our own devises and desires.

Bottom line is that all of us can interpret parts of the bible once we get a basic understanding of the symbolic meanings and it is a sure fire way to truly show our love for our Creator and His Son and all of the Holy Angles who comprise the Holy Spirit! So if you have any thoughts about any scripture, please feel free to share them with us…..

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

A true prophet is correct 100% of the time. Your mushroom cloud date proves what you are. Go home to you children and stop miss leading people.

The Lords' Witnesses said...

Dear forgod'ssake,

In the past the bible recorded the words of inspirational prophets, whose words were holy, in the holy code of God. Their words and their prophecies were faultless, because they did not speak of their own originality...

21 For prophecy was at no time brought by man's will, but men spoke from God as they were borne along by holy spirit (2Peter1).

But today, God's interpretational prophets speak not from God but from their own spirit. They do not utter inspired interpretations, for the bible was not written by man for the Holy Spirit to sweat upon, it was written by Holy Spirit for man's brow to sweat upon.

And in man's sweat there are many mistakes. But these mistakes are not to a modern prophet's dishonor, as they were in the days of inspired prophets. No, they are our glory. For they demonstrate to everyone our faith in the power of the words of a God whose perfection we seek, but we do not ourselves have. It is all the more to our glory that we seek it knowing our imperfection, than it would be if we had merely sought what we already had.

So our dishonor before “unreasoning men” who judge and condemn us in error, is our glory before both of our Gods, Jehovah who was uncreated and unbegotten and Jesus who is the only “begotten God” who’s thoughts are perfect, as is their judgment. Our persistence despite our imperfection is our fight to make the glory of God shine more brightly on the faithful than the dazzling lights of Satan have ever shone on the faithless.

This is how we demonstrate our love to them as well as the Holy Spirit, by doing as Jesus commanded us and that is to love God with all our heart, all our soul, all our mind and all of our strength and to love our brothers as ourselves.

Perhaps when you come to know this forgod’ssake, you will stop condemning and start living.

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

By your own words, you admit your prophecy is by your own spirit, not from the Holy Spirit. The LORD warned against this. Your pius word are empty. You judge me as not understanding, but I understand the LORD's warning.
I say this not from a hate filled heart, but out of love for those you misquide by your spirit. I am rock solid in the arms of the LORD, it does not matter weather you believe that. I will pray the LORD will touch your heart and show you the right way.

The Lords' Witnesses said...

HI forgod’ssake, yes you are correct in saying it is by our own spirit we make these presentations to you and this is precisely how every church has been doing it since 123 AD when the first presence of Christ ended. In the final days of the second faithful slave (FDS2) intense persecution from the Roman Catholic Church either drove those with true faith and understanding out of the church or had them killed for challenging their doctrines that have since been proven to be false. If you would like to learn more about the historical atrocities and antics of the Catholic church you can visit my web site.

You already know that the Word of God was written by those who were borne along by Holy Spirit and left for us as a guide. It was also written in parables and illustrations so that only the wise should understand and so that those who do not care enough to keep asking, to keep seeking or to keep knocking for the hidden treasures within would never find them. We are also told that “It is by the sweat of your brow that you shall eat bread”, yet very few will actually do this and the rest will be satisfied listening to their preacher who teaches them absolutely nothing about scriptures but simply reads a passage out of the bible and says “here endeth the lesson”. Then they go on to tell you some silly story about how that seems to have fit into their lives at some point. To top it off they do it on Sunday (the first day of the week) and not on Saturday (the last day of the week) as Jehovah commanded. (This too was a doctrinal change of the Catholic church and all of her daughters follow it!)

But to the point, these who choose the above path find it much easier to condemn others for doing what Jesus commanded not because of their doctrinal conclusions or their beautiful bible interpretations but because of their flaws. Perhaps if just a handful of these would listen to their teacher (Jesus) and join us in our efforts we would make much greater progress in our work. The “world” has little problem spending billions of dollars trying to interpret each others encrypted signals and billions more trying to decode the human genome and build a better computer program but not one penny on decoding the very Word of their Creator. That is from Satan and not from God for the only way we can show our love to Him and His Christ is by our efforts to know Them better.

I find the works of the world repulsive and those who condemn the efforts of ones who are willing to do the work of decoding the Word of God are part of the world. If you wish to challenge any of our work, by all means do so by giving us scriptural proof of your objection, for we, unlike your church, will not call you a heretic or a heathen or just as bad when they cannot explain it say, “oh, but that is the mystery of God”, but we will examine ALL things as we are told to do and if your input has merit we will gladly include them in our works, if not we will demonstrate through scriptures just as Paul did to the congregations and Pharisees why they don’t, hopefully to your satisfaction.

You tell me that you understand the Lord’s warning so please if you could, explain it to me in your words of understanding so that I too may understand what you refer to. You also state that you say this out of love for those I misguided by my spirit so I also ask you too in what way I have misguided them so that I can learn from your wisdom in this matter. You also stated that my “pious” words are empty and I thank you for using “pious” and not “impious” for it shows that either you understand my love and devotion to the Word of God or you do not understand the meaning of “pious” but more than that, I would ask you to provide the words specifically that are “empty” so that I may fill them with your eternal wisdom.

I have never questioned your faith in the Lord and in fact laud it; however I would like to ask you if you can tell me who the Lord is and what is His name and what is His Fathers name?

PS: I do thank you for your prayers………and I too pray for you as we should all pray for each other continually such is the love of our Lord and His Father.

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

Before I go further with you. Please answer these questions, so that I know who I am dealing with.
Do you believe in the Trinity? The diety of Christ. The personhood of the Holy Spirit? And last, do you consider yourself a Christian?

The Lords' Witnesses said...

What do you mean by “go further” with me? Are we on a journey together? Why is it you ask questions that are all answered by my website in great detail unless of course you have not bothered to actually read any of it??

I do not believe in the trinity as espoused by the Catholic Church and all of her daughter churches and have made it scripturally clear as to why on my site:

http://www.lordswitnesses.us/Apostles%208th_lesson%20ten%20top%20trinity%20busters.htm

for there is not one shred of scriptural proof that the trinity exists in the way they claim it does. If you can find it, I will be more than happy to examine it.

I do believe in the deity of Christ for He is the only begotten God of the Father (John 1:18), of course if you look at the KJV it is rendered “Son” and not “God” which is how the Catholic church rendered the Greek qeos or theos (sorry this blog doesn't support Greek text) which is “God”. They did this in an effort to obfuscate the truth. This is only one of many I have exposed on my web site as well.

I also believe in the “true” priesthood of the Holy Spirit not in those who profess to be the priesthood of the Holy Spirit and are liars.

And no, I do not “consider” myself to be a Christian for I know I am a Christian as I do my utmost to follow the commandments of the Christ who was sent by His Father to redeem me and to show me the truth through Him (the Word of God) .

If you would like to continue this journey with me I would be happy to accommodate you, but only if you do so with a pure heart, that being one that is not bound up by the doctrines of men. A pure heart examines all things without fear of being wrong. If you can do this, I am willing to as well. I have given you the links to my site on these issues because they bear the details of my years of research on the topics you asked about. Yes, by the sweat of my brow I did this research letting the spirit guide me through the scriptures themselves while setting aside my preconceived notions. I only ask that you do the same.

Blessings,
Bill

The Lords' Witnesses said...

What do you mean by “go further” with me? Are we on a journey together? Why is it you ask questions that are all answered by my website in great detail unless of course you have not bothered to actually read any of it??

I do not believe in the trinity as espoused by the Catholic Church and all of her daughter churches and have made it scripturally clear as to why on my site:

http://www.lordswitnesses.us/Apostles%208th_lesson%20ten%20top%20trinity%20busters.htm

for there is not one shred of scriptural proof that the trinity exists in the way they claim it does. If you can find it, I will be more than happy to examine it.

I do believe in the deity of Christ for He is the only begotten God of the Father (John 1:18), of course if you look at the KJV it is rendered “Son” and not “God” which is how the Catholic church rendered the Greek qeos or theos (sorry this blog doesn't support Greek text) which is “God”. They did this in an effort to obfuscate the truth. This is only one of many I have exposed on my web site as well.

I also believe in the “true” priesthood of the Holy Spirit not in those who profess to be the priesthood of the Holy Spirit and are liars.

And no, I do not “consider” myself to be a Christian for I know I am a Christian as I do my utmost to follow the commandments of the Christ who was sent by His Father to redeem me and to show me the truth through Him (the Word of God) .

If you would like to continue this journey with me I would be happy to accommodate you, but only if you do so with a pure heart, that being one that is not bound up by the doctrines of men. A pure heart examines all things without fear of being wrong. If you can do this, I am willing to as well. I have given you the links to my site on these issues because they bear the details of my years of research on the topics you asked about. Yes, by the sweat of my brow I did this research letting the spirit guide me through the scriptures themselves while setting aside my preconceived notions. I only ask that you do the same.

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

No, I had not read your web-site beyond your predictions. Now that I have, I remain unmoved in my original thoughts. God's ways are not our ways. In your decoding, as you say, of scribture, you have read into it what you see. From whatever background and upbringing you have had. To say you can be wrong at times is a cop-out. To he who is given much, much will be required. You will be set apart from the man who is not a teacher,therefore more is expected of you. You say,by condemning the efforts of ones (you) who are willing to do the work of decoding the words of GOD are part of the world.I beg to differ, by tour words you judge me as part of the world. Holding yourself in the lofty postion of being 100% accurate in your decoding. While adding that I may question and you will examine. ( Basicaly tell me why your right and I am wrong). Do you not understand that as Christians we are to judge one another? It is the nonbeliever we are not to judge. No I am not, nor have I ever been a Catholic.
Deu 4:2= Do not add to, or take away from the Word of GOD.
GOD was the same yesterday as he is today, He does not change, nor does the meaning of his word. You continue in your endever at your own peril. I truely believe that, I am truely sorry that you are so sure of what you are doing. I can only say, you will be in my prayers, and one day I hope the tears in my eyes are not for you.

The Lords' Witnesses said...

I have to say I am not surprised by your reply as it is the same rhetoric I get from most Trinitarians. You remain unmoved in your original thoughts because you did not actually read my website for the time we have spent in discussion you could not have read any where near the extent of it therefore you are not being sincere with me.

You are right in that I read into the scriptures what I saw when they were harmonized by other scriptures, that is what you must do to arrive to the truth in what the Word is telling us.

My background and upbringing were, atheist, Lutheran, agnostic, curious and now Christian in that order for I have always sought the truth in everything to include what the world is teaching and doing to form a New World Order as the counterfiet kingdom.

My journey was accomplished by much sweat and research while screaning out the clouds of deceit from those who teach things that are always proven false.

You stated that “God’s ways are not our ways” and rightly so but then you go on to say that if we say we are wrong at times it is a “cop out”. If we were to never be wrong then you nullify your first statement for we too would already be gods.

I am not sure which scripture you are citing about “much being given; much will be required” for there are three that describe this parable. Matthew 13:12, Matthew 25:29, and Luke 19:26 in various forms none of which fit your interpretation (if that was your goal).

All of these are describing what happens to the slaves of Christ if they continue in faith and feed His flock (at the appointed time) or if they lose faith and stop feeding His flocks and follow after their own desires. These accounts all relate to the events that take place with His “true” churches of each presence for all of them start out as faithful slaves and end up being wicked sluggish slaves and finally good for nothing slaves when they lose their water baptism capability. The only one that continues in faith is the last church (Jesus passed three tests in the wilderness, but the first three churches failed them) there was no fourth test. You cannot feed the flocks without understanding the scriptures in the way Jesus explained them to His closest disciples (the ones He spoke to in secret so that they might understand). But to the rest (those who would not join to Him faithfully) they could only hear the parables and illustrations and not get the sense of it.

You keep talking about judgment, do you not know that it is the Word itself that judges us all? I do not have to judge you as part of the world as the Word does that. You just stated that my saying we make mistakes is a “cop out” and once again you say I am “holding myself in a lofty position of being 100% accurate in my decoding.” Well which is it? You are a walking contradiction in everything you say for even that is inaccurate by my revealing our many mistakes!

You also site Deu 4:2 as though you understand its meaning yet you qualify it by saying “He does not change, nor does the meaning of His word”. That is precisely what we are trying to understand forgod’ssake! The "meaning of His word", the hidden meanings that Jesus told us to keep looking for as though it were treasure! If it is your contention that doing this is perilous, I would say to you that not doing so is even more perilous.

You did not answer my first question as I expected for most in your mindset do not so I will ask you a couple of other questions that if you have actually read my website, you should have no trouble answering them. Otherwise, you may enlighten me with your infinite wisdom and answer them your way.

1. Why is it that every major patriarch in the bible had a firstborn son who lost his birthright to a more deserving later born son and what does it mean in the greatest fulfillment?

2. Read this scripture and explain to me why Jesus had to die to “become” [genhtai] first in all things? And what was He before he died?

Col 1:18 And He is the Head of the body, the ecclesia, Who is Sovereign, Firstborn from among the dead, that in all He may be becoming first in all things,

3. And please explain to me why the scriptures say Jesus was the “first resurrected out of the dead” when we all know by the time He had been resurrected He Himself had already resurrected two children and Lazarus out of the dead before this?

Ac 26:23 if He, the first out of a resurrection of the dead, is about to be announcing light both to the people and to the nations.

4. And if Jesus is Jehovah God, why did He ask His Father to “remove this cup from me, yet not my will but yours”?

It is easy to stand by your faith in something, but it would behoove you and others like you to examine that with which your faith is in. For if you are worshipping a triune god that is a doctrine which condemns mankind into being ignorant idolaters of a non existent contrivance of crafty theologians: that being a multi-headed beast to worship as god (an oligarchy) you are in error for Kingdoms are run by kings not committees.

I leave you with one last scripture to ponder and just maybe it will be the catalyst to a ray of light shining through that dark cloud that seems to keep you from understanding these things.

1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things [pertaining] to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:
2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is encompassed with infirmity.
3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.
4 And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of God, as [was] Aaron.
5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
6 As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
7 Who in the days of his [Christ's] flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death [Jehovah], and was heard in that he feared;
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
10. Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchizedek. (He 5)

To a worshipper of a triune god this scripture would be senseless. But to one who reads it without prior indoctrination into the concept of a triune god would think nothing of those words beyond what they are actually saying. It would also be obvious to him/her that the Christ whom is compared with Aaron in regard to His being "called" to be a high priest "after the order of Melchizedek" that the Christ was not always as such and in fact the "honor" of this calling came from the very Father that made Him His “begotten Son”.

With that said I encourage you to examine the rest my website with the same purity of heart for there is nothing in it that was not gleaned from the same painstaking effort that our first presence brothers went through after Jesus ascended to the Father. If you can find any that are not accurate or not powerfully backed by the Word of God itself, please enlighten me.

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

Quote: You stated that “God’s ways are not our ways” and rightly so but then you go on to say that if we say we are wrong at times it is a “cop out”.( Falsle prophecy of things to come.) If we were to never be wrong then you nullify your first statement for we too would already be gods.
Quote: I am not sure which scripture you are citing about “much being given; much will be required” for there are three that describe this parable. Matthew 13:12, Matthew 25:29, and Luke 19:26 in various forms none of which fit your interpretation (if that was your goal)
Try Luke 47:12, you have set yourself aside as a teacher. You are expected to be right 100% of the time. You are wrong to give prophecy,and then excuse yourself with: I can be wrong and the Modern Prophets etc. If your not inspired by GOD, then your not a prophet, your a seer.
You are as good at twisting what I have said to you, as you are with the scripture.
You have rewritten the bible to suit what you want to see. You are very lofty in your asumption of knowledge. And in the way you speak.
Greater is He who is in me, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4 I stand by this 100%, and will not read anymore of your website writings. I trust in the gift of disernment of spirits, the fruit you bare is not worthy, and your hauty spirit is not becoming of a loving spirit.
Again, you continue at your own peril.

forgod'ssake said...

Quote: You stated that “God’s ways are not our ways” and rightly so but then you go on to say that if we say we are wrong at times it is a “cop out”.( Falsle prophecy of things to come.) If we were to never be wrong then you nullify your first statement for we too would already be gods.
Quote: I am not sure which scripture you are citing about “much being given; much will be required” for there are three that describe this parable. Matthew 13:12, Matthew 25:29, and Luke 19:26 in various forms none of which fit your interpretation (if that was your goal)
Try Luke 47:12, you have set yourself aside as a teacher. You are expected to be right 100% of the time. You are wrong to give prophecy,and then excuse yourself with: I can be wrong and the Modern Prophets etc. If your not inspired by GOD, then your not a prophet, your a seer.
You are as good at twisting what I have said to you, as you are with the scripture.
You have rewritten the bible to suit what you want to see. You are very lofty in your asumption of knowledge. And in the way you speak.
Greater is He who is in me, than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4 I stand by this 100%, and will not read anymore of your website writings. I trust in the gift of disernment of spirits, the fruit you bare is not worthy, and your hauty spirit is not becoming of a loving spirit.
Again, you continue at your own peril.

The Lords' Witnesses said...

Again the kind of answer I would expect. You cannot and will not even try to answer my questions, ones that everyone should want to have answered. Instead you judge me as a heretic and run from the sword of my mouth (or pen).

So be it....and when you begin to see that our prophetic understanding of the end times come to fruition, I will still be here to extend my loving hand in spirit and in truth. Until then…..

Blessings,
Bill

forgod'ssake said...

Forgive the typo
Read Luke 12:47
Anyone with spiritual disernment can see what is going on in this world. The LORD promised to take care of his own. I rest in that fact. I will not fall on my sword.
And please do not think I run from the sword of your mouth. Another hauty comment inspired of your lauftiness. I know that I know, that I know. But I don't expect you will grasp that one either.
I will not respond to you further, as it is at this point, moot. I have proven my point, even though you are unable to see it.

Anonymous said...

3/13/2009 Hello Mr. Morris:
Interesting that the first articles I viewed, you were "exposing" the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society for their involvement for 10 years with the United Nations. Then I saw how you had made a prediction that didn't materialize as truth. Humbling, isn't it? Better to not delve so deeply "for others" - sharing is fair, but trying to lead at a time like this is not the thing to do if you can't discipline yourself into not predicting. Everyone that does that gets shown up to be human. What people need is encouragement to try to help America keep strong against the flood of anti-American/Israel God-like principles practitioners that are already beheading their own wives in tv studios-and expose the Muslims teaching Islam within their private schools-very important, for it is in pre and elementary schools that Islam teaches toddlers to become suicide martyrs in Islamic countries. We have a very real job to do to help all Americans-and not many can do that-have you ever thought of that type of ministry with your follower base?////

The Lords' Witnesses said...

Hi anonymous, I am not sure how to even begin in addressing your post as it covers a bevy of issues.

We, the Lords’ Witnesses, are not ashamed of our attempts to predict what the Word of God has provided us and in fact will continue until we get it right for that is what our Messiah whom we call Jesus has commanded us to do when he said “Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you.".

We are humbled every day by the sheer power of His Word and the depths of meaning found in every verse.

As far as being exposed as “human”, none of us are infallible and as such will continue to make mistakes, but the minute one becomes concerned about how they might look in front of men is the minute you lose sight of your service to God. He is acutely aware of where our priorities lie and what is in our hearts.

I disagree with you when you say we should “not delve so deeply for others” for that is what true Disciples of Christ are commissioned to do. Our main objective is to encourage others to do as we do and we are leading by example. All of the sons of Adam are told that by the sweat of their own brow shall they eat bread.

You speak of America and Israel as though they are the victims of the world and I am curious as to how you arrive at such a conclusion. Are you under the impression that it is ok for the US/UK and Israel to kill millions of people in unjust wars with high tech weaponry, but it is not ok for others to fight back by the only means they have? Who was it that said “vengeance is mine”? Who was it that said “love thy enemies and pray for those who are persecuting you”? Who said “I will recompense again, if, then, thine enemy doth hunger, feed him; if he doth thirst, give him drink; for this doing, coals of fire thou shalt heap upon his head”?

I don’t see anything in the gospels about torturing our enemies and holding them in prisons without cause, I don’t see where we are told to impose sanctions on other countries that do not kneel down to the will of our leaders….these are the very things that they did to Jesus and his apostles!

Do you; believe that as Christians we should support a global scheme to impose our hegemonic will by forcing other nations to accept who we choose to lead them and require them to submit to the world banking system (beast) which destroys every nation it infests while enslaving their populations through unparalleled usury and taxes.

Should we not as Christians live by the values Jesus taught us? Do you believe it is right to set aside those values in the name of patriotic duty to a country or its flag?

I am assuming you do understand that our fight is not against “blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world rulers of the darkness of this age”, and that supporting these and their aspirations of a new world order (counterfeit kingdom) are holding you hostage as being as much a part of the “world” as those who were Jesus’ enemies.

Our “type of ministry” as Lords’ Witnesses is one of love not hate, of justice not injustice, of morality not immorality, of kindness not contempt. We will continue to try to do the will of our Father by listening to and following the commandments of His Son to the best of our ability as men who although still wearing the flesh are walking in the spirit of truth with pure hearts. May you find it pleasing to do so as well.

Blessings,
Bill

Anonymous said...

Hey folks,

I have read the comments in this thread, and I find myself amused with some.

The Trinitarian who calls themself forgodssake seems to have revealed his true spiritual position.

This position is in my experience, in the vast majority. I have found it best to leave them what little they have to comfort them, as it is I am well aware of the test they will soon be forced to undertake.

The irony is not lost to me, in that it is the Atheist who insists on his birthrite to choose himself as the god of him. He insists on the right to die, as it is he is aware of his own mortality.
He is therefore a dead god, even while he lives.

The trinitarian insists on his birthrite not to personally seek to know his God, all the while relishing in his salvation.

They each will receive what they request from the Gods of their choosing, though both are dead even while they live.

The Atheist will be enlightened when he finds himself suffering the second death, where as the Trinitarian will suffer from the enlightenment of his continued judicial death.

Both are dead men walking in the free first life, which is death, where as the Atheist in the second death will have no living soul with which to walk, and the Trinitarian will receive new legs with which to carry his dead body about.

How ironic is that???

The one who insists on death, receives his request, though aware of his sad state, and therefore alive.

The one who insists on life receives his request, though aware of his sad state, and therefore dead.

And so the question remains.
Is there a lesson to be learned by the ever living, would be gods?
Especially now that the vision of both parties has been corrected through the benefit of hindsight.
I suspect it{their new spiritual vision}to be somewhere around 20/20
Waddaya think?

Anonymous seems to believe it to be more important to save our Nation, than it is to save ourselves. Does anonymous not understand that the good we do is not ours to call our own?

Did our God create us to feel good when we do good, and conversely, to feel badly when we do what is bad?

He did! So do good. Feel good. PRAISE GOD!!! Be at peace

Does not our God place our leaders in their appointed positions of authority?

They will do what they will do, and they will receive their due in return, as do we all.

All God's children will be saved from themselves, be they Christian or Atheist. It is simply a matter of time. Choose to judge ourselves, and we save immeasureable time. Choose to judge others and it is anyone's guess how long it takes to get back home.

Christian love to one and all,
Mr Steve

Anonymous said...

Well, my goodness Mr Steve had not fallen off one of the four corners of the earth, I heard it wss flat you know...mmmm Ms J

Anonymous said...

Hey there,

Bill asked me to check it out, so I did. Some things never change.
I got tired of spinning my wheels
With religious folk so I stick with the Agnostics.

Better to be a well meaning kook than a tool of the devil. The Trinitarians have it all worked out, like I said, but the work's a lot more fun with faithless believers.

Hey whatever makes the world go round, err flat. So far all of my work has been for Americans, so I guess I kinda took your advice before I received it, huh?

Oops, there I go with the prophet stuff again. It must come with the turf.

It is good to talk with you again
I think

Mr. Steve